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'High On Leadership' author Paul Karasik

Only GenX Wasteland | Toward Real Leadership with Paul Karasik

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In “Only GenX Wasteland”, host Heather Reilly Hiemstra and her partner John continue a conversation with author and entheogenic leader Paul Karasik that began when they met at the North Florida Entheogenic Conference in Jacksonville, FL in July 2025.

Only GenX Wasteland : High on Leadership author Paul KarasikIn Only GenX Wasteland, Heather and John continue their conversation with author, leadership visionary, and entheogenic legend Paul Karasik, exploring how the modern leadership crisis mirrors a deeper spiritual one. Drawing from his book Getting High on Leadership: The Leader’s Guide to Higher Consciousness, Paul challenges listeners to rethink what it means to truly lead - with awareness, empathy, and authenticity.

From the lost ideals of the 1960s (Paul was there!) to the burnout of today’s corporate workforces, this episode follow Paul's quest to evolve leadership itself - so it’s no longer about power, but about presence, connection, and conscious evolution.

Conversations include

  • The Crisis of Inauthentic Leadership A look at the modern epidemic of inauthentic leadership—executives and public figures who “didn’t have a clue” and whose efforts lack an “underpinning of consciousness of truth,” leaving their words empty.
  • Consciousness as the Foundation At the heart of both Getting High on Leadership and central to entheogenic leadership is a foundational principle about consciousness: “You can’t take anybody higher than your own consciousness.” Leaders must themselves be fully enrolled in their own vision, purpose, and personal growth.
  • Relationships and EmpathySeeing team members, partners, and even strangers as “divine” and “equal” rather than cogs in a system transforms workplaces into living communities. Empathy, authenticity, and human connection become measurable business assets.
  • The Integration ImperativeThe conversation revisits lessons from his experiences in 1960s consciousness movement, which Paul says faltered due to a lack of integration. Despite an “awakening,” the movement missed the daily practice of embodying consciousness.

This episode of GenX Hits Menopause explores the many facets of Paul’s timeless message: our world’s “insanity” results from unconscious repetition of broken patterns, and lifting our consciousness is the only way to break our cycle of suffering.

About Paul Karasik

Paul Karasik is a pioneering thinker at the intersection of conscious leadership, personal transformation, and the modern psychedelic renaissance, with over 30 years of experience developing high-impact leadership practices for major North American organizations.

As the president of The Business Institute, a management‐consulting firm focused on leadership development, Paul has guided executives and teams in reshaping their inner dynamics to achieve sustained external results. His work has always gone beyond merely teaching leadership “skills”. He invites leaders to explore how their inner world influences their organizational impact, creativity, collaboration, and mission fulfillment.

A key milestone in his work is his book Getting High on Leadership: The Leader’s Guide to Higher Consciousness (2023/2024), which presents a roadmap for leaders to “get high” not in the sense of intoxication but in the sense of elevated consciousness, presence, and purpose. The book describes how as a leader’s awareness expands, so does the capacity of their team and the organizational culture to produce creativity, innovation, and deeper fulfillment.

What makes Paul’s approach unique is his living through the cultural and experiential roots of the consciousness movement—his leadership in the 1960s and beyond, his hands‐on study of meditation, breathwork, yoga, metaphysical sciences, and bodywork. He co-founded Thompson’s Ranch in Joshua Tree - one of the early alternative communities in America - and has worked to integrate safe, intentional practices of psychedelics into healing, leadership and transformation frameworks.

Paul is also founder of the Psychedelic Institute of Los Angeles, an international organization devoted to providing education & access to safe consciousness‐expanding technologies. Through the institute, Paul advances his belief that expanded consciousness is not just a personal gift but a societal imperative for leaders, teams, companies, and global systems.


Learn more about Paul's work at The Psychedelic Institute of Los Angeles

Episode Highlights

Where Most Fall Down

"Through the years I had become conscious of the fact that, that we can't take anybody higher than our own consciousness. We can't, we can't enlighten anybody unless we're enlightened. We, we can't create a team under us that care unless we care. And this very fundamental truth was where I saw most leaders fall down. " Paul

If everybody owned it

"If everybody owned that fact, I think the world would change. There would be a revolution in consciousness - but people don't own the role. They don't say, I am a leader and I have to do what leaders do and think what leaders think and and, and aspire to have the consciousness that is higher so that I can lead people to a higher place." Paul

leaders like that

"Most of this book is really centered on this idea of consciousness in relationships. conscious consciousness that you are a divine person. You are connected to the eternal, you are equal to me in every single way. ... but to treat them with consciousness that as, as equals and as enlightened and as creative and. Doesn't everybody wanna be around leaders that, that treat people like that, right?" Paul

Awakening Events are all around us

"They might say, Hey, this is just not financially profitable for me to be mistreating people. And then replacing somebody in a business setting costs like around a... it costs about $500,000 to replace a mid-level manager. So... you start saying, Hey, nobody wants to work from me. I have to keep hiring new people. You're spending millions of dollars on hiring every year. Right. And that, that could be an awakening." Paul

Why didn't the 60s change this?

"What was failing back then was because we didn't emulate the consciousness. That's why it didn't work. ... the awakening, that initial aha, that initial what I'm doing isn't working - that when you treat people good, they treat you good, that awakening - was just a moment in time and an experience, and there was no integration of that. "  Paul

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